Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

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Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by DrivingDutchman » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:06 pm

Thought this looked a bit wonky. Had a good look underneath and found this... :aaagh:
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by RMS » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:14 pm

Oh dear!!

Have you had a good look at the rest of the chassis - tapping it with a hammer?

Dumbiron replacement is fairly straightforward, though I see you've also got the P38 power steering which will make it a little more involved.

Hope you don't find anything more serious.

Robin.
1967 109" Carawagon 200TDi
1958 109" Carawagon 2.25P (project)
1972 109" Carawagon 200 or 300TDi (project)
1972 109" SW Carawagon 2.5NA (project)
1974 Dormobile 2.25D (project)
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by DrivingDutchman » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:17 pm

Haven't looked further yet. But I think I have driven like this for a little while. :aaagh: :embarassed:
All the way to Le Touquet in France and back.
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by jerryd » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:07 pm

:aaagh: That looks bad but fixable, I thought an mot would pick that up or is it mot exempt ??

Currently fitting power steering to mine after finding all the right bits !!
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by RobW » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:12 pm

My 88" passed an MOT and failed like that (but not quite so badly) on both dumb irons about 7 months later. If there's no evidence of external corrosion it's easily missed and my tester had even hit it with the testing mallet!
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by woollen797 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:48 pm

Had this on my first 109 came back from a day out to a wonky bumper, jacked it up and my dad plated it.

Anyone know a decent suppler of replacement dumb irons as my current Land Rovers could do with some, the daily needs it's previous replacement replacing as it is more rotten than the original at other side!
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by DrivingDutchman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:04 pm

What would you guys recommend? Try to clean it up and weld it and plate it over or go for the replacement route. Already have a new dumbiron just in case. But replacing it would mean that I need to take the power steering box and plate off which I would like to prevent.
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by RMS » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:35 pm

The only way to know is to cut back until you find good thick steel to weld to.

It's no good plating if the rest of the dumbiron is rotten!

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1967 109" Carawagon 200TDi
1958 109" Carawagon 2.25P (project)
1972 109" Carawagon 200 or 300TDi (project)
1972 109" SW Carawagon 2.5NA (project)
1974 Dormobile 2.25D (project)
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by DrivingDutchman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:25 pm

It is getting worse. Fiund the reason why it snapped where it did... :aaagh: full of filler...
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Re: Broken chassis rail at the front offside dumbiron

Post by RMS » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:10 pm

AAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH :thud:

It's a wonder it's lasted as long as it has - presumably it was a 'quick fix' and slap underseal on just so the previous owner could sell it :rant:

I hope you don't find any more filler on the chassis!

Are you old enough to remember the magnet trick? Prior to manufacturers dipping bodies it was common to find wings, arches & sills patched with filler on cars over 3-4 years old, so it was always worth running a magnet over those areas when looking to buy a car.

Robin.
1967 109" Carawagon 200TDi
1958 109" Carawagon 2.25P (project)
1972 109" Carawagon 200 or 300TDi (project)
1972 109" SW Carawagon 2.5NA (project)
1974 Dormobile 2.25D (project)
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